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feeling like a knee vision blast off

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couldn't be more excited about our guest

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today

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it is the amazing ben hansen

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big ben as they call him over in the uk

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worldwide

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he is recognized as one of the

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paranormal experts ever since

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he debuted in factor faked great show

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wish it was still around

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and um ben kind of made his way into

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other realms as well

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he's currently working with ghost stuff

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with tv i can't go into that

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he's still investigating amber lights

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over

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utah an amazing phenomenon that has

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taken place for

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some time there in utah and he's always

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been a fan of the uintah basin

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and the odd goings on there

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he recently met the owner and

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had a lot of interesting and good things

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these are interesting times and we're

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going to discuss everything from

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tv portals to hell the

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um vice article that came out

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possibly uh talking about the owner

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that was also by one of our uh show

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favorites

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mj and we hope to have mj back here in a

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minute if you haven't checked out the

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article definitely go to

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vice motherboard and check that out

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so um yeah ben is involved with all

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kinds of stuff

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whether it is night vision optics uh

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showing people what to do correctly what

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not to do he's involved with

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prepping he's involved with getting

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people certifications for

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things that you might need he's also

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uh getting certified himself if not

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a pilot in various forms of aircraft so

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ben's kind of a jack of all trades and

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he's really good at what he does and i

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can't wait to talk to him in these

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strange and interesting times of

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coronavirus so

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ben hansen welcome to the hero

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paranormal podcast

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thank you thank you thank you how you

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it's wild it's hard not to be

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like giddy at this time there's so much

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everywhere whether whether you're a

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and i mean just a lot going on

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in the uintah basin and you've been

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involved in the basin for quite some

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i i wanted to ask you i've got so many

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questions i know you've got a lot

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a lot going on what's going on with you

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what's new

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well like you said i think um it's just

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the strangest times that we're in right

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new and people are trying to keep up

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turned upside down every industry you

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know they're trying to figure out

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what they're going to do to kind of

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and so at the same time you have all

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um as you probably know too i'm kind of

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in well i guess you could say i'm a

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family they have a disaster preparedness

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that we run and and so i've been getting

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like what are preppers thinking about

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from him again but it's kind of like

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yeah it is it's not so crazy anymore

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and it's not so crazy anymore

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yeah yeah people um i think

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that would get made fun of you know

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like running to the gun stores right now

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people waking up to see things that they

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big wake up i think we're going to get

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just fine and i think the economy is

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when we get in these conspiracy theories

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are we gonna shut down everything like

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that again are we gonna try and bail

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everybody out again because this we've

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you know and so i was thinking about

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this when it first started

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let's put this in the the perspective of

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the alien disclosure

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movement right um the brookings

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what's the best way to handle this and

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they did their studies and they come

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back and they say

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the economy and and we can't handle it

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of that policy being in place that's

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people we can handle it

288
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and then i saw the first week where

289
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people were freaking out with the toilet

290
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paper and stuff

291
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i was like no i don't know that we can i

292
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mean this is a flu that

293
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that like there's people still it's not

294
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like you you just got told that we were

295
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being visited by you know

296
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a dozen alien races and we don't know

297
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what they want

298
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so i i really do worry

299
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for people because i i don't know that

300
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disclosure's ever going to happen

301
00:11:36,310 --> 00:11:35,110
yeah my gosh my i had an interesting

302
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conversation

303
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with some family members and they

304
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basically said

305
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is it obvious that we lived in utah and

306
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maybe it's just by affiliation i we

307
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always had

308
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super full pantries and you know canning

309
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is just kind of a thing it's like

310
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something people do for fun and

311
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you have like you know you just have you

312
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have more

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in reserve than usual and and the homes

314
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are built that way they all have like

315
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cold storages

316
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and basements and and you know part of

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it

318
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is usually dedicated to food storage and

319
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you just don't know why it's just kind

320
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of the way it is

321
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your neighbor does it so you do it you

322
00:12:20,629 --> 00:12:17,839
know

323
00:12:21,350 --> 00:12:20,639
my dad was lds and my mom wasn't but she

324
00:12:23,590 --> 00:12:21,360
was all

325
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with that plan that made perfect sense

326
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to anybody really

327
00:12:31,190 --> 00:12:28,880
but yeah like living in nevada now

328
00:12:33,509 --> 00:12:31,200
that is to a lot of neighbors that are

329
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just like oh postmates is taking so much

330
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longer than usual

331
00:12:38,710 --> 00:12:36,959
you know they don't have a pantry that's

332
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full and

333
00:12:42,949 --> 00:12:42,399
um but it's it's it's different than

334
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anything

335
00:12:48,710 --> 00:12:46,320
we've seen and i i i think that

336
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like the reality of what our great

337
00:12:52,550 --> 00:12:50,240
grandparents saw

338
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in the great depression complaints are

339
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like you know

340
00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:55,760
netflix you know the bandwidth isn't

341
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really killing it

342
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or postmates is taking right luxury

343
00:13:05,430 --> 00:13:02,480
problems right

344
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and and this is i don't know man this

345
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looks

346
00:13:09,430 --> 00:13:08,000
i it seems like this might take a little

347
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longer than most people would

348
00:13:15,269 --> 00:13:12,560
like it to it already has i think

349
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and i think we're just most people are

350
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just kind of

351
00:13:20,310 --> 00:13:18,560
tired of it you know already and we're

352
00:13:22,069 --> 00:13:20,320
worn down we're just like okay let's get

353
00:13:25,829 --> 00:13:22,079
on with it because

354
00:13:26,150 --> 00:13:25,839
um it's always i think though it's it's

355
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gonna

356
00:13:31,269 --> 00:13:29,519
that intrepidation now though

357
00:13:33,110 --> 00:13:31,279
it's kind of like you've given everyone

358
00:13:35,910 --> 00:13:33,120
a little ptsd

359
00:13:36,629 --> 00:13:35,920
because when when you had katrina and

360
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you have

361
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earthquakes in different cities and

362
00:13:43,670 --> 00:13:41,680
you know it's kind of regional to where

363
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those people remember it for

364
00:13:47,430 --> 00:13:46,480
you know several years to come but this

365
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is the first

366
00:13:53,509 --> 00:13:50,639
global or national um

367
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emergency that most most people have

368
00:13:57,829 --> 00:13:55,120
ever lived through

369
00:13:59,750 --> 00:13:57,839
you know the depression even it was was

370
00:14:02,790 --> 00:13:59,760
really global but

371
00:14:06,790 --> 00:14:02,800
but it's like this this uh

372
00:14:09,910 --> 00:14:06,800
is is just so in your face everywhere

373
00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:09,920
that i think it's going to uh

374
00:14:14,150 --> 00:14:12,320
hopefully be a big eye-opener too like

375
00:14:16,150 --> 00:14:14,160
you said so your neighbor

376
00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:16,160
isn't kind of making fun of and looking

377
00:14:19,509 --> 00:14:18,160
you know with weird glances of the

378
00:14:21,430 --> 00:14:19,519
person who

379
00:14:22,710 --> 00:14:21,440
who has a couple months of food i mean

380
00:14:25,750 --> 00:14:22,720
that's it's so

381
00:14:27,509 --> 00:14:25,760
foreign to so so many people because

382
00:14:29,350 --> 00:14:27,519
they just expect to turn the water on

383
00:14:30,790 --> 00:14:29,360
the water is going to come out or

384
00:14:32,470 --> 00:14:30,800
go to the store there's always going to

385
00:14:33,750 --> 00:14:32,480
be food like someone's there to take

386
00:14:36,550 --> 00:14:33,760
care of me

387
00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:36,560
you know and so they they think it's

388
00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:38,639
funny that other people don't believe

389
00:14:42,949 --> 00:14:39,680
that

390
00:14:44,710 --> 00:14:42,959
and and so i think this is an eye-opener

391
00:14:46,470 --> 00:14:44,720
that industry is going to be booming i

392
00:14:48,069 --> 00:14:46,480
think all industries going to be booming

393
00:14:49,829 --> 00:14:48,079
people are going to be

394
00:14:51,430 --> 00:14:49,839
tired of being cooped up in their house

395
00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:51,440
they're going to walk vacations and all

396
00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:52,240
that but

397
00:14:55,670 --> 00:14:53,600
but first they got to get back to their

398
00:14:58,310 --> 00:14:55,680
jobs you know so

399
00:14:59,590 --> 00:14:58,320
in the midst of all that um you have

400
00:15:01,590 --> 00:14:59,600
some great

401
00:15:04,550 --> 00:15:01,600
news and stuff happening you know in the

402
00:15:07,269 --> 00:15:04,560
ufo world and all that but

403
00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:07,279
it's it's kind of like if let's say the

404
00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:09,519
secret keepers did have

405
00:15:14,629 --> 00:15:12,639
a timeline you know and maybe they were

406
00:15:18,949 --> 00:15:14,639
going to come out and say something like

407
00:15:20,790 --> 00:15:18,959
now is probably not the time to do it

408
00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:20,800
it's like i don't know that that our

409
00:15:24,069 --> 00:15:22,720
economy or the people could handle any

410
00:15:27,110 --> 00:15:24,079
more than they're taking right now

411
00:15:30,150 --> 00:15:27,120
that's exactly right because

412
00:15:33,590 --> 00:15:30,160
it is like wild with

413
00:15:36,550 --> 00:15:33,600
everything coming out that is and

414
00:15:37,509 --> 00:15:36,560
at least in our little neck of the woods

415
00:15:40,870 --> 00:15:37,519
you know there's

416
00:15:43,350 --> 00:15:40,880
a lot of big news and it's

417
00:15:43,990 --> 00:15:43,360
kind of seems like oh my gosh this is

418
00:15:47,509 --> 00:15:44,000
too much

419
00:15:49,269 --> 00:15:47,519
like i i can't i've waited forever for

420
00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:49,279
a lot of this stuff to come out as i

421
00:15:53,110 --> 00:15:51,360
know you have and probably tons of

422
00:15:54,150 --> 00:15:53,120
people have even though there's a few of

423
00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:54,160
us

424
00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:57,600
and it's kind of overshadowed by the

425
00:16:01,590 --> 00:15:58,000
well

426
00:16:03,910 --> 00:16:01,600
it's classified as a pandemic

427
00:16:05,990 --> 00:16:03,920
i think you know like international this

428
00:16:08,550 --> 00:16:06,000
is a kind of a big deal i think a

429
00:16:12,069 --> 00:16:08,560
quarter of the globe is on lockdown

430
00:16:13,350 --> 00:16:12,079
it's a big deal it is

431
00:16:16,069 --> 00:16:13,360
and a lot of people are using this

432
00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:16,079
escape um so we have you know the the

433
00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:18,000
history channel premiere of the the

434
00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:19,920
skinwalker show and

435
00:16:24,230 --> 00:16:22,720
that's tomorrow night i believe and a

436
00:16:26,470 --> 00:16:24,240
lot of them are using this

437
00:16:28,949 --> 00:16:26,480
you know kind of as a time to sit down

438
00:16:31,509 --> 00:16:28,959
and watch their favorite tv shows

439
00:16:32,470 --> 00:16:31,519
kind of have it as an escape in fact in

440
00:16:35,269 --> 00:16:32,480
italy

441
00:16:35,990 --> 00:16:35,279
when they locked down tv numbers were

442
00:16:38,389 --> 00:16:36,000
incredible

443
00:16:39,030 --> 00:16:38,399
they were the ratings were insane

444
00:16:41,910 --> 00:16:39,040
because

445
00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:41,920
people um typically even like in

446
00:16:45,829 --> 00:16:44,560
depressions and stuff the movies do well

447
00:16:48,389 --> 00:16:45,839
you know they can't do anything with

448
00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:48,399
movies so what are they going to do well

449
00:16:53,189 --> 00:16:50,000
you and i probably aren't watching much

450
00:16:55,430 --> 00:16:53,199
tv we're probably busy at work

451
00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:55,440
and doing doing a bunch of other things

452
00:16:59,990 --> 00:16:56,480
but

453
00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:00,000
um that sounds an error to me um

454
00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:02,880
but i'm saying that the average person

455
00:17:06,470 --> 00:17:04,400
let's say who clocks in

456
00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:06,480
let's put it that way the average person

457
00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:08,079
who clocks in

458
00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:10,480
you know and goes to a job and nine to

459
00:17:15,189 --> 00:17:13,439
five and comes home

460
00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:15,199
if they're not working remotely right

461
00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:16,559
now they've got a lot of time on their

462
00:17:19,909 --> 00:17:17,520
hands

463
00:17:22,549 --> 00:17:19,919
those who are self-employed i guess is a

464
00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:22,559
better way to say it

465
00:17:25,990 --> 00:17:25,120
we're using this time to to figure out

466
00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:26,000
our next move

467
00:17:29,830 --> 00:17:28,720
you know and we're probably incredibly

468
00:17:32,870 --> 00:17:29,840
busy

469
00:17:35,590 --> 00:17:32,880
doing that and so it's uh

470
00:17:36,070 --> 00:17:35,600
um it's it's a new world we're living in

471
00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:36,080
i mean

472
00:17:39,990 --> 00:17:38,160
one thing i guess is great is that this

473
00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:40,000
will probably push a lot of

474
00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:43,120
companies to see that their their

475
00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:45,440
employees can work from home there's

476
00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:47,039
like

477
00:17:51,110 --> 00:17:49,360
you know a lot of jobs that can be done

478
00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:51,120
remotely where they thought you had to

479
00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:52,799
have that facetime and

480
00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,600
actually be in the office all the time

481
00:18:01,110 --> 00:17:57,520
and i think we're saying

482
00:18:01,990 --> 00:18:01,120
we've got zoom we check in you trust me

483
00:18:03,830 --> 00:18:02,000
i'll do my work

484
00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:03,840
you know it's kind of like things are

485
00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:06,000
changing there too

486
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:09,120
zoom is amazing i you know that's

487
00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:11,600
it's it's like what my wife is doing in

488
00:18:17,110 --> 00:18:14,400
the kitchen right now and

489
00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:17,120
it's pretty impressive i'm like holy cow

490
00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:17,520
this

491
00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:21,360
is easy and i think like you said

492
00:18:27,430 --> 00:18:24,880
completely realizing that

493
00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:27,440
very much if not more can be done from

494
00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:28,080
home

495
00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:29,440
just because they're everybody's cutting

496
00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:31,120
to the chase

497
00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:33,760
you know yeah the formalities the water

498
00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:35,280
coolers out the window you know what i

499
00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:35,919
mean

500
00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:38,640
the formal yeah and and work is just

501
00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:39,600
getting done

502
00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:41,840
at a quick rate and like the essential

503
00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:44,080
employees are

504
00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:47,840
being utilized i agree and

505
00:18:51,990 --> 00:18:50,400
self-employed is already like whoa like

506
00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:52,000
holy cow you realize it's like you

507
00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:53,760
against the world all of a sudden

508
00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:56,559
and um it's good stuff though i'm sure

509
00:19:01,669 --> 00:18:58,480
it's gonna get better

510
00:19:03,350 --> 00:19:01,679
but on the paranormal front the you know

511
00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:03,360
there's a lot going on you've been

512
00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:06,880
uh doing a lot as well as i

513
00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:10,080
portals to hell is killing it um

514
00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:12,000
vice just came out with an interesting

515
00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:14,480
article about the united basin

516
00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:16,720
there's a lot a lot going on right they

517
00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:18,080
did they did i do that

518
00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:21,120
yeah yeah um i

519
00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:23,520
i thought that was a great article and

520
00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:24,480
uh

521
00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:26,559
and everybody forgot about epstein but i

522
00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:27,760
mean who can blame him

523
00:19:34,750 --> 00:19:30,960
you know it's like the

524
00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:34,760
uh but like the the amount of

525
00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:36,480
conspiracies it's like a

526
00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:40,400
tidal wave of and the scary thing is

527
00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:42,080
some of them check out which you're like

528
00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:43,679
oh no back away

529
00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:47,280
and um at least initially and then you

530
00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:48,720
look into them and a lot of them fall

531
00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:49,200
apart

532
00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:52,240
but there's there's a lot going on as

533
00:19:55,830 --> 00:19:53,120
far as that

534
00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:55,840
in the conspiracy world what's going on

535
00:20:00,950 --> 00:19:57,200
i don't i know you can't talk

536
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:00,960
much about tv in that however

537
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:04,880
um you had a little bit to do

538
00:20:11,029 --> 00:20:07,919
with at least the idea of

539
00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:11,039
possibly having if i'm not mistaken that

540
00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:13,600
i could be way off base or a tv show

541
00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:15,360
about skinwalker

542
00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:18,640
or at least the area yeah so it's kind

543
00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:20,240
of an interesting thing that

544
00:20:25,750 --> 00:20:23,679
how that came about um my own tv

545
00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:25,760
projects i can say i'm involved in some

546
00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:28,000
things right now that um

547
00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:30,640
that we hope soon to be able to announce

548
00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:32,720
really exciting stuff

549
00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:36,080
um i can't say for who or what but um

550
00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:38,480
we're we're currently you know filming

551
00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:40,080
and doing some things and so that will

552
00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:40,640
be really

553
00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:44,480
fun but um what happened with this

554
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:48,080
um skinwalker ranch show that's i keep

555
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:50,080
forgetting the exact title on history

556
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:52,320
why do i keep forgetting it

557
00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:54,880
um it's not called the history of

558
00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:56,880
skinwalker it's the mystery mystery skin

559
00:21:02,630 --> 00:20:58,640
walk ranch okay

560
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:02,640
so um way back it's probably been about

561
00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:04,000
two years ago

562
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:07,360
um there was there were a couple of

563
00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:10,640
producers had reached out to me i didn't

564
00:21:14,630 --> 00:21:12,320
really

565
00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:14,640
i don't believe i'd ever talk to them

566
00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:16,000
maybe we had some

567
00:21:20,149 --> 00:21:17,840
some connections here there somewhere

568
00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:20,159
but you know they said hey we love your

569
00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:20,960
work

570
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:23,600
just wanted to chat with you and see if

571
00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:25,280
you had any ideas of

572
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:27,520
we're looking at doing a new sort of a

573
00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:28,720
paranormal show

574
00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:31,120
and they wanted to do something that was

575
00:21:36,549 --> 00:21:33,200
similar to oak island

576
00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:36,559
you know where um the the whole

577
00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:38,400
the show series revolves around a

578
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:39,760
specific location and

579
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:41,760
they can stay in and all sorts of things

580
00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:42,880
are happening

581
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:44,559
i said oh so you want like a hot spot

582
00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:46,640
area like yeah

583
00:21:52,149 --> 00:21:49,840
so i and they're like you know we maybe

584
00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:52,159
want to produce with you and

585
00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:54,799
consult or have you you know be um host

586
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:57,520
on the show and toss around ideas and so

587
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:01,360
you know i get a lot of these calls and

588
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:04,559
um i i looked up you know what these

589
00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:06,240
guys credentials were and they

590
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:09,200
did a lot of good tv and i said okay

591
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:11,760
well let's toss around some ideas

592
00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:14,720
and i i gave them probably about i don't

593
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:15,039
know

594
00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:18,320
five or six different hot spot locations

595
00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:19,760
and i said you know guys but the number

596
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:20,799
one

597
00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:24,000
is skinwalker ranch i said but you're

598
00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:26,559
you're not gonna get there i said i have

599
00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:28,720
a buddy of mine

600
00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:30,559
i said he this is before you bought the

601
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:31,840
property

602
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:35,440
and i said i have a buddy who has um

603
00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:37,840
a bed and breakfast and some some stuff

604
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:40,000
some land out nearby there and i tried

605
00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:41,679
to explain to them that it is the whole

606
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:43,520
uh basin

607
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:46,240
that has activity i said but the actual

608
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:47,120
ranch was

609
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:50,480
purchased by some new owners

610
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:52,400
and i said they they want to remain

611
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:54,880
anonymous they have um

612
00:23:02,070 --> 00:22:58,320
an llc name you know protecting them

613
00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:02,080
but no contact info and i said you're

614
00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:03,840
you're really not gonna be able to get

615
00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:05,600
all these guys

616
00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:07,280
and i said oh that's too bad because

617
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:08,559
that would be really cool i said well

618
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:10,799
look i can reach out to george knapp

619
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:13,039
i said because i know he knows them i

620
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:15,679
know he's doing a documentary on it

621
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:18,880
and we'll see so i

622
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:21,039
emailed george and he got back to me and

623
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:22,320
he's like

624
00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:25,120
he said yeah um the new owners aren't

625
00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:26,080
interested

626
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:28,080
in in doing anything with that i said

627
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:29,120
work he said i'm

628
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:32,320
finishing up my documentary so he said

629
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:32,799
i'm not

630
00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:36,640
to be doing anything more

631
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:39,840
with skinwalker rants and so i said okay

632
00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:40,960
and i told them

633
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:44,000
so whatever so i i kind of take some

634
00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:46,480
credit for planting the seed there

635
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:47,679
they get all the credit for the

636
00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:50,799
dedication because what they did

637
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:52,640
i don't know like they must have just

638
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:53,840
gone through

639
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:56,880
llc paperwork and stuff and and found

640
00:24:02,070 --> 00:23:58,799
some contact information

641
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:02,080
they got a hold of who we we know now is

642
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:03,360
really the owner

643
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:07,039
not a group owner and

644
00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:09,200
they kept bugging him and bugging him

645
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:12,799
and so now fast forward

646
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:15,760
to last summer and i had a mutual have a

647
00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:17,520
mutual friend

648
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:20,320
um who who runs the salt lake comic con

649
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:21,520
dan far

650
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:24,640
and dan calls me up and

651
00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:27,840
i i remember i was i was out at

652
00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:31,039
dinner with my family he says hey

653
00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:32,720
are you still interested in skinwalker

654
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:34,799
manchester yeah and he goes i might have

655
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:36,080
something for you

656
00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:38,480
he said what he goes well i know

657
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:39,919
somebody who represents

658
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:43,200
has connections with them and um

659
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:44,720
he might want to meet you i mentioned

660
00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:46,159
your name and all this stuff and he's

661
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,679
heard of you and

662
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,360
he said really and he says yeah give me

663
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:51,360
a call when you get into town next

664
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:54,080
so that's how it started so next time i

665
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:55,200
was in town

666
00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:58,320
up in utah i i met with dan

667
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:01,679
and we went up to we now know is the

668
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:02,480
office of

669
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:06,480
brandon fugle you know with um

670
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:09,520
the uh the real estate coldwell um

671
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:12,400
investors uh a commercial real estate

672
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:14,320
firm and

673
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:16,080
uh went up to the high rise building

674
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:17,679
downtown

675
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:20,799
and so he didn't tell me at first how he

676
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,240
was involved

677
00:25:25,890 --> 00:25:24,240
but it was really funny because brandon

678
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:25,900
is a really nice guy

679
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:27,039
[Music]

680
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,159
he very generous with his time

681
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:32,320
he's very very busy but he sat down and

682
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:34,799
spent like three hours

683
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:37,760
with me you know dan had to leave but

684
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:38,640
three hours

685
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:40,880
bringing me up to speed on everything

686
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:42,000
that has taken place

687
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:44,960
with the ranch with them giving

688
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:47,760
presentations to the government on it

689
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:50,080
um all these different things and and he

690
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:51,360
said

691
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:53,760
before this all that happened though

692
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:55,200
we're in the board meeting room and he

693
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:56,880
says to me

694
00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:59,600
so yeah um you know what's we're just

695
00:26:02,230 --> 00:26:01,279
talking about my interest in it and

696
00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:02,240
everything

697
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:06,080
i said hold on a second and by this time

698
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:09,360
the um the jeremy corbell documentary

699
00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:10,559
come out

700
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:12,559
and i watched it and you know the part

701
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:13,919
where they're interviewing the owner

702
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:16,240
using silhouette right

703
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:18,000
and if you went online there's all these

704
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:19,360
conspiracies

705
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:21,760
like people trying to figure out his

706
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:23,600
watch you know who's watched

707
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:26,400
who who wears this and is it is it tony

708
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:29,520
robbins is it this is the guy who loves

709
00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:33,840
rant and it was like

710
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:36,000
um i looked at him though and i kind of

711
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,360
remember the silhouette everything that

712
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,360
was talking i said hold on a second

713
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:42,000
you're the guy aren't you and he's like

714
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:42,960
what i said you're

715
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:45,520
you own the ranch you're gonna tell me

716
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:46,880
you have a connection if you own it it's

717
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:47,919
like

718
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:51,360
here's yep and he goes so there's only a

719
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:54,000
small circle people who

720
00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:56,159
by this time you probably even knew who

721
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:57,760
he was so i found out the circle wasn't

722
00:27:02,789 --> 00:26:59,039
that small

723
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:02,799
but um he said you know like

724
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:06,400
please you know keep it in confidence

725
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,960
and um i don't want my name to be out

726
00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:10,159
there because

727
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:12,799
the connection he was afraid of you know

728
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,159
with his commercial

729
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:16,480
real estate and that people may not

730
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:17,200
understand

731
00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:20,080
his obsession with all this stuff and so

732
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:20,559
he

733
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,240
[Music]

734
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:26,159
i couldn't even i felt like i'm really

735
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:27,840
loyal when people tell me things like

736
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:29,120
that

737
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:32,720
and um so he had

738
00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:34,720
he told me some people though that he

739
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:36,559
was working with and he kind of

740
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:38,880
gave me a list of his consultants you

741
00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:39,919
know and

742
00:27:45,110 --> 00:27:43,279
you and i know like 80 90 of the people

743
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:45,120
on that list

744
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,679
but i couldn't call them up and say hey

745
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:49,440
guess who i met with

746
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:51,039
because i didn't even want them to know

747
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:52,480
that i knew that i knew

748
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,399
and you know like and and so it was like

749
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:58,559
just kind of held on to that for quite a

750
00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:00,000
while

751
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:03,039
and um then uh

752
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:05,760
he showed me the sizzle reel that he

753
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:06,399
says well

754
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:08,720
i said look i've never thought about

755
00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:10,559
doing a tv show with this i said because

756
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:12,880
you know that i work in gp and he's like

757
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:15,200
well actually we've been working with

758
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:17,840
these guys with a history channel

759
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:20,159
i said what are their names and he told

760
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:22,000
me that the names of the two producers i

761
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:22,640
said

762
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:25,760
whoa are you serious they found you

763
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:28,240
these are the guys and it was the same

764
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:29,840
people that

765
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:32,880
had spoken to me months earlier so they

766
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:34,080
found him

767
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:37,679
they were um you know very diligent and

768
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:40,559
seeking him out and so long story short

769
00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:45,039
um i i could say that the sizzle reel

770
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:45,440
was

771
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:54,000
you know like uh brandon fugle for

772
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:55,600
we i don't know if we said his name but

773
00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:57,520
of course it's out now

774
00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:59,919
he wanted it to be a little more creepy

775
00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:01,200
and represent

776
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:03,279
exactly this type of things that have

777
00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:04,960
been happening out there

778
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:07,600
because it is there's so many kind of

779
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:09,760
weird and freaky things

780
00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:11,679
the sizzle reel was a little bit maybe

781
00:29:15,269 --> 00:29:13,760
too happy and to kind of like

782
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:15,279
you know don't don't know where out here

783
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:17,919
on the ranch sort of thing

784
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:20,159
and i said well these guys make great tv

785
00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:21,360
i'm sure they'll tweak it and do

786
00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:22,799
whatever

787
00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:26,080
but i'm kind of bummed that i didn't

788
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:27,520
have

789
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:30,399
the diligence at the time to seek him

790
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:32,320
out myself

791
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,840
but also that um these guys now had it

792
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:37,120
figured out and

793
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:39,760
you know it kind of wasn't part of the

794
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:41,360
party anymore because i think it would

795
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:43,679
have been a great show to work on

796
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:46,480
but even they as they started into it

797
00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:48,000
history channel realized

798
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:50,960
they wanted um and not to put them down

799
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:51,919
at all

800
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:53,600
because they've made some some good

801
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:55,279
shows on their own but

802
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,440
they wanted the backing of even a bigger

803
00:30:03,590 --> 00:29:59,600
company that does this stuff

804
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:03,600
and so um they had them go back to

805
00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:05,520
someone else that this producer had

806
00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:08,159
worked for which is prometheus and

807
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:10,720
prometheus is owned by kevin burns

808
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:13,120
and he's like old school hollywood and

809
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:15,120
the time i met with him in his office

810
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:18,640
he said he's such a character and

811
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:21,279
um so this happened after my meeting

812
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:22,640
with brandon

813
00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:24,000
anyways i don't think it's interesting

814
00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:28,159
people but the way it comes about

815
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:32,080
is that um they now have this other

816
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:34,000
company producing it

817
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,200
and they come in and and

818
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:39,360
really big budgets history's totally

819
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:40,880
behind it now

820
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:43,840
i think their whole goal is to get

821
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:45,360
people who've never heard of this

822
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:46,240
because you and i

823
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:48,880
especially you just have property there

824
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:51,919
but we are nerds right we're real geeks

825
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:53,679
and we've known about

826
00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:56,240
the skinwalker ranch and about that area

827
00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:56,720
for

828
00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:00,320
decades um the general public

829
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:02,640
is only barely starting to hear about it

830
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:04,080
this is like

831
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:07,840
when area 51 was not a household name

832
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,000
you know and and i think this could be a

833
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:12,720
household name pretty soon

834
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:15,840
so it's kind of only within our circles

835
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:18,559
but when area 51 broke out and everyone

836
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:20,240
knows what it is

837
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:23,200
i think that has this potential and that

838
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:24,000
could be good

839
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:27,360
it could be bad you know good

840
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:30,399
because i think whatever's happening

841
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,360
there

842
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,840
the more eyes we have the more theories

843
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:35,679
we have

844
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,600
there's going to be similar hot spot

845
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:39,279
areas in the world that we can compare

846
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:40,240
to

847
00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,960
and we can learn from it bad of course

848
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:44,159
because

849
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:46,000
we don't want it to be a total tourist

850
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:47,440
attraction

851
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:49,360
we don't want people trespassing and

852
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:50,960
interfering

853
00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:52,880
um you know and it's like your

854
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:54,000
property's right there

855
00:32:02,070 --> 00:31:57,840
yours is gonna get overrun as well

856
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:02,080
so you know i don't that's

857
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:04,559
i i think though the genre and that

858
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:05,600
subject matter

859
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:10,559
is just barely getting into the uh

860
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:13,440
the the public now and so it's gonna be

861
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:14,640
pretty big

862
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:18,000
it's huge news very huge news

863
00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:21,360
it's it's a big deal and

864
00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:24,159
it's not just that the owner came out

865
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:26,559
who just happens to be kind of like

866
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:30,000
bruce wayne and but

867
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:33,200
you know there is you know it gets

868
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,960
better than that there's there's all

869
00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:36,720
kinds of stuff going on

870
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:40,640
and um the timing is just wild

871
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:43,200
so i i can't wait to see it when it

872
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:44,000
comes out

873
00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:47,039
and it's going to be interesting

874
00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:48,559
what what do you think about all the

875
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:50,799
conspiracies going on right now

876
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:54,640
with this virus and

877
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:57,440
uh oh they're really just all over the

878
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:58,320
map

879
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:01,440
well and that's the problem because the

880
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,440
news is coming out and changing so

881
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:05,440
rapidly it's kind of hard to

882
00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:09,200
stop and have the time to

883
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:12,399
to research each conspiracy i could say

884
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:13,279
nothing really

885
00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:15,760
surprises me anymore i wouldn't be

886
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:18,480
surprised if this was a weaponized virus

887
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:19,120
that was

888
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:23,760
man-made that you know maybe had escaped

889
00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:25,679
their trying out purposely

890
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:27,279
i don't i find that a little hard to

891
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:28,880
believe though

892
00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:32,000
that they would unleash this to destroy

893
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:34,799
our economy as well because they they

894
00:33:39,509 --> 00:33:36,640
rely on our economy

895
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:39,519
yeah we owe them billions of dollars but

896
00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:40,960
if we're not producing

897
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:42,880
they're not getting paid back you know

898
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:45,120
so some of these

899
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:48,640
conspiracies make no sense um

900
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:51,360
you know a new world order okay we're

901
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,320
going to

902
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:54,720
reset everything so that the the

903
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:57,120
government has to provide our security

904
00:34:04,149 --> 00:33:57,360
and

905
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:04,159
the way i see this happening though

906
00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:06,880
is that it kind of whatever however it

907
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:07,519
started

908
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:09,760
it got out of control surprised so many

909
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:11,119
people

910
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:14,639
about um not just the actual

911
00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:17,520
physical threat but the psychological

912
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:19,040
threat

913
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:22,079
the the instability because i think

914
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:26,720
um we live in a world of fragile people

915
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:31,200
i guess you could call it people who

916
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:33,839
that haven't honestly seen many hard

917
00:34:36,310 --> 00:34:34,960
times

918
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,320
compared to like you mentioned the

919
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:38,879
depression and the war and everything

920
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:42,320
and they they've kind of been coddled

921
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:45,040
and you know lived in this world where

922
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:46,079
they just

923
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:48,000
really become entitled and think things

924
00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:50,079
are just going to be there and that

925
00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:52,399
um you know the government especially

926
00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:54,560
has grown so big now

927
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:55,839
so they think the government's just

928
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:57,520
going to come and swoop in and save

929
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:58,560
everything

930
00:35:02,230 --> 00:35:00,160
so this is kind of like one of the first

931
00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:02,240
times where um

932
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:05,280
that uncertainty has really hit him

933
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:07,040
between the eyes

934
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:10,960
and so this psychological part of how

935
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:13,359
society has sort of fallen apart is the

936
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:15,520
scary thing to me

937
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:18,640
and so i keep going back to that

938
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,119
and relating it to you know et

939
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:24,000
disclosure and whatnot but

940
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:27,200
it's it's ripe for manipulation so if

941
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:29,760
you don't have good government leaders

942
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:32,320
on both sides it's not a republican or

943
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:33,839
democrat thing

944
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:36,800
if you don't have good leaders who are

945
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:38,079
not corrupt

946
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:41,040
this is the time for power hungry people

947
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:42,000
to step in

948
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,040
and see how far they can push it this is

949
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:47,359
where you're starting to see

950
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:49,680
you know constitutional rights trampled

951
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:50,720
on

952
00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:54,000
of the people

953
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:57,599
and you know i i'm not too big into a

954
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,720
master plan that i think is taking place

955
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:02,640
but i think they're kind of figuring it

956
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,400
out as they go

957
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:06,320
you know like look at boris yeltsin who

958
00:36:10,829 --> 00:36:08,240
basically changed their constitution not

959
00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:10,839
boris i'm sorry um

960
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:14,320
uh well what can i think of his name

961
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:17,520
what did they say putin yeah yeah

962
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:19,920
putin thank you yeah basically change

963
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:22,400
the russia's constitution

964
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:26,160
so that he could be um basically the

965
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:28,480
their uh prime minister the president

966
00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:30,640
for the rest of his life

967
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:34,480
you know and um i i know that there are

968
00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:35,200
people who

969
00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:36,640
here who would do that if they could

970
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:38,839
change the us constitution to make the

971
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:40,000
king

972
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,160
you know to make a president that would

973
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:44,160
to make senators presidents and congress

974
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:46,480
people who could be there forever

975
00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:50,079
you know so it's it's something to keep

976
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:50,320
an

977
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:53,440
eye on um you know

978
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:56,000
and and having worked for the federal

979
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:56,560
government

980
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:00,400
i can say 95 of those people

981
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:02,960
are patriotic good hard-working men and

982
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:05,520
women who love our country

983
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:08,320
but there's another small percentage

984
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:10,000
that's growing

985
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:13,680
that would love to see a totalitarian

986
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,440
sort of a state where

987
00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:17,520
you promise the people security but you

988
00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:19,520
take everything from them

989
00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:22,160
you know don't let them make any choices

990
00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:24,800
and basically control their lives

991
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:28,079
and i'm not saying that this

992
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:30,800
virus wasn't necessary to do some of

993
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:32,160
this

994
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:35,599
you know to tell people not to leave and

995
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:38,800
to kind of lock them in place in a sense

996
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,920
it's probably what we needed to do you

997
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:43,440
know to stop this thing

998
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:47,040
however if we become accustomed to this

999
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:50,160
and there's no checks in place little by

1000
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:51,359
little

1001
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:54,160
um you know people just start taking

1002
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:56,400
taking orders and it's

1003
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:58,960
um it's it's gonna be a world that's

1004
00:38:03,190 --> 00:37:59,839
very different

1005
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:06,470
yeah all sudden rights can be something

1006
00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:07,119
that you

1007
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:09,520
used to have instead of something you

1008
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:10,640
still have

1009
00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:14,640
and it's um it's interesting because

1010
00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:16,480
we're seeing that in other countries i

1011
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:18,079
don't think we'll see that here but

1012
00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:19,760
you just never know i mean you just

1013
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:21,200
never know

1014
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:23,440
it hopefully it doesn't get to that

1015
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:24,400
point

1016
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:26,400
um i wanted to ask you something a

1017
00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:27,599
little off topic

1018
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:30,880
really quick is are you still following

1019
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:32,560
the amber lights there

1020
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:34,320
over the great salt lake i know you were

1021
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:36,079
doing a lot of work

1022
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:38,400
into that you still keeping up on that

1023
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:40,720
at all ben

1024
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:44,640
yeah so um

1025
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:47,680
i i met recently with dave rosenfeld

1026
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:48,880
alien dave and

1027
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,400
and talked to him about some of the

1028
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:52,480
recent things out there

1029
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:55,599
and um it's kind of cool

1030
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:58,560
i think that there's there's enough

1031
00:39:02,310 --> 00:38:59,119
people

1032
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:02,320
who have seen i would say with

1033
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:04,800
with a pretty high degree of certainty

1034
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:05,359
that we

1035
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,160
we know of certain things that are being

1036
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:10,400
tested that's ours

1037
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:12,400
and then we have these other things that

1038
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:15,040
seem to show up

1039
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:16,960
because they're curious about what is

1040
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:18,240
ours

1041
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:22,000
and my my dad has a friend

1042
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:24,400
who works out there at dugway on the

1043
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:25,920
base and

1044
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,760
you know i think he's keeping the

1045
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:29,440
security clearances

1046
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:31,359
his his oath and all that like he needs

1047
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:32,480
to but

1048
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:34,240
he knew that we had an interest in this

1049
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:36,079
and he asked him

1050
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:38,400
he said hey ask your brother about this

1051
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:40,079
stuff we're seeing there

1052
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:43,520
and the guy who works out there said

1053
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:46,880
let's just say that we test

1054
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:50,079
a lot of exotic i think

1055
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:52,320
i don't know the exact word to use but a

1056
00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:54,079
lot of exotic technology that

1057
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:57,520
many different parties are interested in

1058
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:59,200
now you someone could think okay well

1059
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:01,280
that means what the russians the chinese

1060
00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:02,160
and

1061
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:04,000
they're flying over new stuff well this

1062
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:06,800
was in direct conversation to

1063
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:08,640
the fact that these lights are showing

1064
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:11,119
up around

1065
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:12,640
for example what people are calling this

1066
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:14,240
laser cannon

1067
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:17,200
you know this thing that huge huge laser

1068
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:18,960
beam that shoots straight up into the

1069
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:20,960
sky or down from the sky we don't really

1070
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:22,560
know which

1071
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:24,400
and all of a sudden you get these lights

1072
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:26,240
that are dancing

1073
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:28,480
they appear they're kind of dancing

1074
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:29,760
around the cannon

1075
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:31,599
i mean the laser that's going off and

1076
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:32,960
hang around for a little bit and then

1077
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:34,720
disappear

1078
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:38,000
right and so if i had to put money on

1079
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:40,079
it i would say that a lot of what's

1080
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:42,160
going on is ours

1081
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:45,200
but there's there's lights

1082
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:47,520
there's like like you said amber the one

1083
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:48,400
i saw was

1084
00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:52,400
red colored um they're sort of like orbs

1085
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:55,119
and triangles still seeing some

1086
00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:57,359
triangles and stuff out there

1087
00:41:01,510 --> 00:41:00,560
that quite possibly could not and quite

1088
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:01,520
possibly are not

1089
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:04,560
ours at all they're um

1090
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:06,480
just from the back porch of my my

1091
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:08,079
parents place

1092
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:11,200
in bountiful they've seen these lights

1093
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:14,560
flying over from across the west desert

1094
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:16,880
like the ones i saw disappearing

1095
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:18,880
reappearing to the right and shooting

1096
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:21,200
over our house hundreds if not thousands

1097
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:22,880
of miles an hour

1098
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:25,280
yeah i'd say thousands as fast as going

1099
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:27,119
but completely silent

1100
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:29,599
and sometimes they've actually seen jets

1101
00:41:32,829 --> 00:41:31,200
chasing these things from hill air force

1102
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:32,839
base

1103
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:35,920
so um it always brings you back to the

1104
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,280
question i always ask

1105
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:39,359
same with area 51 same with what i've

1106
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:41,280
seen like why would you do that

1107
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,240
over populated area if it was ours you

1108
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:46,079
didn't want it to be seen

1109
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:47,760
you have all that testing area you could

1110
00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:49,520
have done it in so

1111
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,119
i don't know that it is ours and um

1112
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:55,440
so i try to keep tabs on it i know

1113
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:57,119
there's there's several people

1114
00:42:01,589 --> 00:41:59,040
up there in utah that kind of you know

1115
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:01,599
dedicate themselves to doing this

1116
00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:03,680
every now and then you'll see it pop up

1117
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:05,680
you know in the news but

1118
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:07,440
i think people be astounded how

1119
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:09,599
frequently this happens

1120
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:11,920
and it's just not reported in the news

1121
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:13,839
or other people

1122
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:17,359
aren't talking about it

1123
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:20,319
it's pretty cool stuff it's it's neat

1124
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:21,119
and

1125
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:23,440
um what else do you have going on i know

1126
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:25,359
you have a lot going on and i appreciate

1127
00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:27,359
you coming on the podcast

1128
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:29,599
where can people keep up with what you

1129
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,280
have going on and

1130
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:33,040
and watch you and and things of that

1131
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:34,560
nature

1132
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:37,680
so when i'm able to

1133
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:40,960
make announcements and things with the

1134
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:42,720
different parties involved here the

1135
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:44,240
projects i'm doing

1136
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:47,520
um i will tweet it you know

1137
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:50,240
it's just my twitter's just ben hanson h

1138
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:50,960
s

1139
00:42:57,230 --> 00:42:54,319
zero

1140
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:57,240
and uh my website's ben hanson got

1141
00:43:03,910 --> 00:42:59,359
benhansongot.com

1142
00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:03,920
so i did have events up there i mean

1143
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:07,200
i was going to the the texas

1144
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:09,920
edinburgh texas ufo festival uh that got

1145
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:11,119
canceled

1146
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:12,800
it's supposed to be happening uh this

1147
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:14,480
coming weekend

1148
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:17,359
and the next thing if it doesn't get

1149
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:18,240
canceled

1150
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,319
it'll be close it's going to be close is

1151
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:23,040
um contact in the desert

1152
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:26,560
out in indian wells um near palm springs

1153
00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:28,800
in california

1154
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:31,599
and uh you know they're there tends to

1155
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:33,599
be a little bit older clientele a little

1156
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:35,920
bit older people who go to like ufo

1157
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:37,520
conferences and what i'm worried about

1158
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,480
is that

1159
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:40,160
they're going to be afraid this isn't

1160
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:41,440
going to be over and they're going to

1161
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:42,800
cancel their

1162
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:46,400
conference and hotel rooms and you know

1163
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:49,599
trump has just extended the

1164
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:51,839
the projected date for all this

1165
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:53,200
quarantine to the end of

1166
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:57,520
april so that gives basically a month

1167
00:44:01,589 --> 00:44:00,079
where where people like to plan ahead

1168
00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:01,599
and and a lot of them are going to be

1169
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:04,160
uncomfortable still i think

1170
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:07,520
you know going out into such huge areas

1171
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:08,000
of people

1172
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:10,960
congregating so don't know if that one's

1173
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:14,400
going to be happening or not

1174
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:17,440
i would i would go on to their website

1175
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:19,440
if you're interested though and keep

1176
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:20,480
updated and sign

1177
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:23,760
up because i think it will any couple

1178
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:25,119
other conferences throughout the

1179
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:28,000
throughout the year but um all of it i

1180
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:29,119
announce on twitter

1181
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:32,480
facebook and i'm pretty much on all

1182
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:34,000
those things if people know how to use

1183
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:37,839
the computer so yeah

1184
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:40,079
well i i hope they don't all get

1185
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:42,400
cancelled i hope this just goes away

1186
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,560
and um i appreciate you coming on

1187
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:48,720
i if we were all so lucky i don't know

1188
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:50,160
i'm i'm thinking

1189
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:52,960
gosh a month yeah a month guaranteed is

1190
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:53,440
kind of

1191
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:56,480
brings it down a little

1192
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:59,920
but let's do this like i um

1193
00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:01,119
we've been talking about doing this

1194
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:03,440
forever the weather's looking good

1195
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:06,960
you know we got some 70s down here

1196
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:08,800
it's been snowing up in utah that's

1197
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:10,319
going to get pushed out now it's going

1198
00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:11,680
to warm up

1199
00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:13,359
we're going to get really bored here so

1200
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:15,040
i have to buckle down for the next

1201
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:16,560
couple weeks

1202
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:19,280
get my my business and everything you

1203
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:20,400
know in order but

1204
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:23,040
um i do want to come up there and

1205
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:25,200
whenever you're there we should

1206
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:27,599
um i know brandon fugo really wants to

1207
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:28,480
meet you

1208
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:31,200
um i'd love to see you guys get together

1209
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:33,040
since you guys are neighbors

1210
00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:36,160
you know and uh let's let's get you guys

1211
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:37,359
together and i want to go

1212
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:39,440
go up there and check out your property

1213
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:42,240
and we don't have to wait for the

1214
00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:43,520
rest of the world to get back to

1215
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:47,839
business if we're free we should do it

1216
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:50,800
yeah yeah i was it's it's so tough

1217
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:52,000
traveling right now but

1218
00:45:57,109 --> 00:45:55,520
yeah i'm i'm i'll stay in touch and

1219
00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:57,119
can't thank you enough for coming on

1220
00:46:01,510 --> 00:45:59,359
hope to talk to you soon

1221
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:01,520
all right sounds good thanks ryan there

1222
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:03,520
he is the man with the plan

1223
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:07,040
it is ben hansen he is uh

1224
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:08,880
always interesting to talk to always has

1225
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:10,960
a pretty clear view and aspect of what's

1226
00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:13,119
going on

1227
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:15,839
great to have him on and i hope to have

1228
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:16,960
him on in the future

1229
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:18,480
if you haven't checked it out yet

1230
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:20,400
definitely check out ben hansen on

1231
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:22,079
social media

1232
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:25,280
check out his night optics line um of

1233
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:28,720
night vision and uh also watch him

1234
00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:31,599
on all the shows that he's on in the

1235
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,720
meantime check out heroparanormal.com

1236
00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:36,400
if you're not a patron become one we

1237
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:38,079
have all kinds of cool shows that

1238
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:40,240
aren't available to everybody they are

1239
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:41,200
there

1240
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:43,760
and our patron ship is very inexpensive

1241
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:45,119
for as little as a dollar

1242
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:48,160
you're in that's it um

1243
00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:50,640
stay strong people during this corona

1244
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:51,839
quarantine

1245
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:55,040
and keep your eyes to the skies feet on

1246
00:47:10,900 --> 00:46:56,880
the ground but don't forget to take a

1247
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:10,910
look around

1248
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:17,750
come blast off in my time machine third

1249
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:20,880
eye feeling like a knee vision blast off

1250
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:37,030
[Music]

1251
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:40,880
like a knee vision blast off blast off

1252
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:44,000
blast off blast off come

1253
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:46,880
blast off in my time machine third eye

1254
00:47:52,030 --> 00:47:48,160
feeling like an e5

1255
00:48:14,710 --> 00:47:52,040
scene blast out blast off master

1256
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:16,710
we partying back to the future like

1257
00:48:30,420 --> 00:48:17,760
michael j

1258
00:48:49,420 --> 00:48:32,390
[Music]

1259
00:48:59,970 --> 00:48:49,430
scene